Curse

Kassad · Jul 03, 2008, 06:44 AM // 06:44

I don't see why everyone is QQ'ing, SF shouldnt have ever been included in the game in the first place.

Oh noes they nerf teh Inv1c3ble skill lolz ima gunna QQ on teh forumz!!

I was hoping they would delete the skill but too many people would have a cry. People exploiting an overpowered skill and it gets nerf so people complain? Can the general community get any more stupid?

manitoba1073 · Jul 03, 2008, 06:51 AM // 06:51

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Originally Posted by R.Shayne

QFT.

ANET just completely killed a bunch of other farms with the 50% damage reduction and left the ecto farm there. I hope they remove the 50% damage thing since since ecto farmers have switched to degen (at the least change to to 25% damage reduction)

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Hmm ofcourse it took me a whole 36 mins after showing a war the route to do the VwK run. :wave: and someone else has a build itll do it in 23 mins. Sorry for all those guys that didnt want ppl to farm UW chaos plains. I like mine too

zwei2stein · Jul 03, 2008, 06:52 AM // 06:52

Skill was nerfed yet its still perfectly usable and still imba ... just a bit slower ... and there is still qq over nerf?

Jeez.

Abedeus · Jul 03, 2008, 07:01 AM // 07:01

This just shows that even if A.Net does care, they don't know anything about balancing the game.

edit: Imo make all banished riders into Cursed ones.

Onyx Blindbow · Jul 03, 2008, 07:22 AM // 07:22

I can agree with the changes they made in UW the only change I don't agree with is the "50% less damage" change

That change alone has nerfed so many farming builds (from tomes to greens) it's ludicrous.

Nerf's to UW were warranted sa it was simply too easy and I think they made good nerf choices in the additional skills given to the foes and the addition of a different foe, nerfs to farming anywhere in the game are not warranted though and that is the only thing they need to re-dress imo.

eeks · Jul 03, 2008, 07:31 AM // 07:31

Hrm. It's not exactly difficult to avoid killing Dream Riders. I guess they were overestimating how much SF farmers took the simplicity of the run for granted.

Tender Care · Jul 03, 2008, 07:32 AM // 07:32

[signet of disenchantment] =death

well....i'm quite pissed of about this, but NO PROBLEM : FARMING THE UW IS A PRIVILEGE FOR [URSAN BLESSING] WHICH I HAVE SO NO PROBLEM FTW

Tramp · Jul 03, 2008, 07:39 AM // 07:39

ok...i am gonna give in and start farming the snot out of uw now too with the new 23 minute fire/burn build. If you cant beat 'em...join 'em. They nerfed my favorite ele with the SF changes so i am gonna use this new sin til i get hacked and QQ and rage quit or ectos go through the 3's and into the 2's... which should be sometime in the next 24 hours. Just thinking about the guys at anet all typing /fail on their computers right now makes me mad... forget it... gonna watch tv instead.

Golgotha · Jul 03, 2008, 07:42 AM // 07:42

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Originally Posted by Abedeus

This just shows that even if A.Net does care, they don't know anything about balancing the game.

edit: Imo make all banished riders into Cursed ones.

Or.. or.. or.. they could create a new creature at the entrance to the Chaos Plains called "The Bodyguard" he instantly kills any approaching Assassin, secondary or primary alike. That'll definitely be balanced.

@ The ingenuity of some members of the community far outweighing the QQ'ing of elitists.

Nerf #2 in five, four, three....

niek2004 · Jul 03, 2008, 07:44 AM // 07:44

Oke you nerfed SF, now do something about Ursan.

manitoba1073 · Jul 03, 2008, 07:45 AM // 07:45

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Originally Posted by Golgotha

Or.. or.. or.. they could create a new creature at the entrance to the Chaos Plains called "The Bodyguard" he instantly kills any approaching Assassin, secondary or primary alike. That'll definitely be balanced.

@ The ingenuity of some members of the community far outweighing the QQ'ing of elitists.

Nerf #2 in five, four, three....

LOL it wasnt really, its an old build I dug out from when I made my sin in the first place minus an addition at the start of factions.

People dont have a clue that perma sin has always been possible even before the recent buff.

Torabo · Jul 03, 2008, 08:03 AM // 08:03

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Skill was nerfed yet its still perfectly usable and still imba ... just a bit slower ... and there is still qq over nerf?

Jeez.

Let's see, its still perfectly usable in the area the nerf is supposed to make harder.... and unusable, or so inefficient that it might as well be for the other areas that Anet supposedly claims the nerf wouldn't have had a major effect on.

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At this time, we have not made it more difficult to maintain Shadow Form permanently, because this would be more likely to remove Shadow Form farming as an option for many players

<sarcasm>Problem? Of course not.</sarcasm>

I'll be back farming ectos on the sin even though I find it more boring than other less efficient farms, mainly because they've been nerfed to being utterly inefficient or unusable compared to the UW farm, instead of just being a bit less efficient.

Artisan Archer · Jul 03, 2008, 08:07 AM // 08:07

They didn't want to kill it, just make it less efficient. As they stated.

DarkNecrid · Jul 03, 2008, 08:10 AM // 08:10

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Originally Posted by Artisan Archer

They didn't want to kill it, just make it less efficient. As they stated.

That's great!

By the way it takes the same amount of time with the new build.

Oops!

Torabo · Jul 03, 2008, 08:18 AM // 08:18

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Originally Posted by Artisan Archer

They didn't want to kill it, just make it less efficient for UW/High-end areas. As they stated.

Fixed

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We are not opposed to players using Shadow Form for farming, but it is not good for the game economy for high-end farming activities to become too easy or too efficient.

Unfortunately, it didn't really do that, and instead affected other builds.

FF_Timmeh · Jul 03, 2008, 08:19 AM // 08:19

u know whats really bad?

this signet kills SF, spellbreaker and obsi... so theire is no way to block hexes anymore.....

this dmg nerf is a sweet idea i think maybe put it on 75% dmg reduction

or 100% XDD

and now put in elite skill vs signets and call it "Signet Form"

Arkantos · Jul 03, 2008, 08:24 AM // 08:24

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This just shows that even if A.Net does care, they don't know anything about balancing the game.

Sadly, this is true. Instead of just reverting it back to pre-buff, which would have solved the problem it caused, they decided to make it so it's still possible to farm UW, but they killed a shit load of other harmless farming builds.

I actually thought ANet did something good. I guess I was wrong.

CoopaTroopa · Jul 03, 2008, 08:27 AM // 08:27

Be honest with yourselves people. Regardless of what it did to the ecto prices, it was a degenerate and overpowered build. 3 skills giving you permanent immunity from all attacks and spells, leaving the rest of your bar to kill things? No matter how much money you are making, things like that just don't make sense. Anet made the right move with this, and I'm optimistic to see how they handle ursan and SY.

upier · Jul 03, 2008, 08:53 AM // 08:53

Great job on the new (farming) build guys.

Hyaon · Jul 03, 2008, 08:54 AM // 08:54

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

. This nerf has done NOTHING, ZERO, ZILCH, but nerf the ele green farming build. ain.

Yup, utterly owned my e/a, can't kill a thing and have tried to work around it.